14:35:38	 From  Yvonne Ng : List of deliverables revisited
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Btrssi9BiF7PXhfgLqNdwkUX41uKootP_X6ovohZ2QM/edit

14:48:12	 From  Cable Green (CC) : Maybe employ GMMB in this effort - they are funded by Hewlett to assist with OER Comms.
14:49:40	 From  Jeff Ubois : Secret contracts seem like something to fight
14:49:56	 From  Peter Kaufman : That’s a CRAZY GOOD idea
14:49:57	 From  Jeff Ubois : No NDAs for.edtech
14:50:11	 From  Curt Newton : Hear hear
14:50:26	 From  Jeff Ubois : No long term contracts either
14:50:32	 From  Jeff Ubois : Without good ways to back out
14:50:33	 From  Peter Suber : Yes, +1
14:50:48	 From  Jeff Ubois : Agree with Hal 100 percent — or more!
14:51:17	 From  Claudio Aspesi : can I add something?
14:51:53	 From  Lisa Petrides : Shep Ranbom at CommunicationWorks in DC is someone you might reach out to
14:52:30	 From  Samuel Klein : is there an EdTech Alliance focused entirely on advocacy, practical communication (of what is possible) , and mutual support?
14:52:43	 From  Lisa Petrides : We should get Doug Levin involved also
14:52:50	 From  Jeff Ubois : FWIW, E Warren’s office is doing a deep dive into the problems with private equity.
14:52:57	 From  Samuel Klein : Claudio: go on
14:54:43	 From  Cable Green (CC) : Crazy thing about this new world - as many business / people are required to decrease their work, our open orgs are asked to increase our efforts. For Creative Commons, we’ve been leaning into conversations re: why open is important in the time of crisis and beyond - see our latest round of blog posts: https://creativecommons.org/blog
14:55:37	 From  Jeff Ubois : Such good ideas here …
14:55:51	 From  Peter Suber : One helpful resource = Public Statement of Library Copyright Specialists: Fair Use & Emergency Remote Teaching & Research
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10baTITJbFRh7D6dHVVvfgiGP2zqaMvm0EHHZYf2cBRk/preview#
14:55:55	 From  Jeff Ubois : what are the more longer lasting guides / publications that would go with this?
14:56:23	 From  Peter Kaufman   to   Yvonne Ng(Privately) : Does the chat get recorded too?  I think so right?
14:56:40	 From  Yvonne Ng   to   Peter Kaufman(Privately) : only the part that is public
14:56:56	 From  Peter Kaufman   to   Yvonne Ng(Privately) : Better that way ;-)
14:57:17	 From  Yvonne Ng   to   Peter Kaufman(Privately) : angela is on
14:58:13	 From  Peter Kaufman   to   Yvonne Ng(Privately) : Natural ally: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/04/harden-your-zoom-settings-protect-your-privacy-and-avoid-trolls
14:58:22	 From  Jeff Ubois : Problems with scrapping privacy and other regulations in response to crisis
14:59:38	 From  Peter Suber : More on Hal's proposal: Several universities have released their own guidelines on good subscription contracts with publishers, or good principles for negotiating those contracts. (I could provide a list on request.) Perhaps a group of schools at all levels could work on similar principles for edtech contracts.
14:59:49	 From  Jeff Ubois : Open businesses as only scalable solution for full population; requires commercial arm; speak to employment in the sector
14:59:53	 From  Ryan Erickson-Kulas : Hi All! Apologies for being late. I had a previous commitment for the first half of our meeting
15:00:09	 From  Jeff Ubois : Framing it as a different part of the economy.
15:00:19	 From  Claudio Aspesi : https://www.forbes.com/sites/martyswant/2020/03/19/citing-covid-19-trade-groups-ask-californias-attorney-general-to-delay-data-privacy-enforcement/?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWkdFNFlUQTNaak15TXpjNSIsInQiOiJwUkRub2hROGJKVktKdzdyUlwvZm1nTjlIQW5MMTVKd2xGS1gwb2tzeGFWdkxMSW5WRFd3bXpsTExqYVMzdEExWGVBd3c1RURJT2hVakFOVWRVcmx5bVM5ZmZ5SVoxSGs5N2pMYkt4YitNbEN4SVVGbVFkSEdud2s3Zzc5OERpbGsifQ%3D%3D#36c197605c30
15:00:20	 From  Jeff Ubois : Authors Alliance?
15:00:32	 From  Jeff Ubois : No 100,000 percent counterweight to AG
15:00:38	 From  Jeff Ubois : 100 000 percent
15:00:43	 From  ross.mounce : *cough* cough Authors Alliance ;)
15:00:43	 From  Peter Kaufman : https://en.unesco.org/covid19/educationresponse the numbers - staggering
15:00:52	 From  Jeff Ubois : Person (autocorrect is Bad ;-))
15:01:08	 From  Peter Kaufman : Cough into your elbow pls
15:01:49	 From  Cable Green (CC) : Ryan - I’m digging the COVID beard.
15:03:08	 From  Cable Green (CC) : See: SPARC’s Big Deal Cancellation Tracking as one model: https://sparcopen.org/our-work/big-deal-cancellation-tracking/
15:03:09	 From  Ryan Erickson-Kulas : Haha yeah I stopped tending to it about nearly 4 weeks ago. Will see how crazy it gets
15:03:51	 From  Claudio Aspesi : https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalreview.com%2F2020%2F03%2Fderegulate-to-help-the-private-sector-fight-coronavirus-2%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca5c67540eec747a1ce1208d7db265629%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637218829999705682&sdata=%2BJ2zHw8P3zUKaJxxGMu6fxR8j0gO%2By0EpMII1wLIwWw%3D&reserved=0
15:07:25	 From  Peter Suber : One way to start: Open 2020 could put out a call for existing lists of such principles, and devote a web page to a list of them. If it wished, it would work on developing new and better principles in parallel.
15:07:37	 From  Peter Kaufman : +1
15:10:38	 From  Cable Green (CC) : Collection of student data.
15:13:00	 From  Ryan Erickson-Kulas : Where are we envisioning this ad running? I do like the idea of having some “existing principles” when getting resources to help move education remote
15:13:18	 From  Cable Green (CC) : Recent CC Post re: open education: Education in Times of Crisis and Beyond: Maximizing Copyright Flexibilities - https://creativecommons.org/2020/03/31/education-in-times-of-crisis-and-beyond-maximizing-copyright-flexibilities/
15:13:45	 From  Lisa Petrides : Agree, Curt, well said. Opportunities have been un-lodged, and the void creates opportunities for bad things to fill the space.
15:13:57	 From  Ryan Erickson-Kulas : Yes as someone who attends those GMMB calls they are very useful!
15:14:33	 From  Peter Kaufman : +!
15:14:39	 From  Peter Kaufman : 1
15:22:02	 From  Peter Suber : We should prepare for the decline of the public-health emergency. While open ed is a good idea for all time, not just during a pandemic, we should *anticipate* the argument that it's less necessary or less valuable when F2F education is feasible again. And of course the arguments for continuing open ed should be compatible with taking full advantage of F2F education, when it's feasible again. 
15:22:17	 From  jamimathewson : I do think Hal’s idea in Feb. about a broader platform for Open is super important. Imagine if we’d had that, and people could easily share: good contracts for school districts; 3D printed ventilators; cloth mask patterns; etc. (Not suggesting anyone has time for getting something this set up, but it makes me long for this even more!)
15:22:43	 From  Curt Newton : +1 on this - OER for community resilience
15:23:00	 From  Curt Newton : Plugged into OER for SDGs
15:24:21	 From  Willem van Valkenburg : Unfortunately I have to leave. Stay safe and stay healthy
15:25:17	 From  Peter Kaufman : Bye Willem You too
15:25:20	 From  Peter Kaufman : Send flowers
15:26:43	 From  jamimathewson : +1
15:27:29	 From  Ryan Erickson-Kulas : Yes I like the idea of categorizing based on short, medium, and long term
15:27:49	 From  Peter Kaufman : +1
15:29:21	 From  ross.mounce : Open Ed, Open Science/Research but also Open Standards... Carl Malamud (Public.Resource.org) is doing some good work right now to post standards relating to PPE and ventilators
15:30:04	 From  Ryan Erickson-Kulas : Apologies all but I have to hop off for another call. Be well and I will look for next steps via email.
15:30:50	 From  ross.mounce : https://archive.org/details/publicsafetycode?and%5B%5D=subject%3ACOVID-19&sin= 
15:30:55	 From  jamimathewson : Something we’ve found in our (small-scale) work at Wiki Education is that conveying urgency is *always* important when it comes to Open/Open information. Right now, the urgency is largely because of schools/libraries physically being shut down. But there are always access issues for *a lot of people*, so maybe we can tap into that urgency when conveying the long-term importance.
15:31:08	 From  Lisa Petrides : Great to have this group read and activated!
15:31:14	 From  Lisa Petrides : *ready
15:32:02	 From  Peter Kaufman : Thank you Ryan
15:33:13	 From  Curt Newton : As they say: Organizing is the key to hold and sustain the gains glimpsed in a time of upheaval.
15:34:01	 From  Yvonne Ng : Thanks everyone!
15:34:39	 From  Lisa Petrides : whoops
15:34:43	 From  Lisa Petrides : Thanks, Peter!
15:34:51	 From  Peter Suber : Here's my 2011 article on OA as a response to humanitarian crises. Key takeaway is how little the increased OA stayed after the emergency abated.  https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/4870994
15:34:53	 From  ross.mounce : Thanks everyone
15:35:02	 From  Cable Green (CC) : Appreciate seeing everyone. The work is hard and messy right now … and we’re all locked down - so it’s really nice to have some “human” interaction.  ;)
15:35:15	 From  Peter Kaufman : What Hal said